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Oh Soo decides to impersonate Oh Young's lost brother in order to get enough money to repay a debt. But, as the story goes, his initial interest in money turns into love. See more at IMDbPro.
Episodes Browse episodes. Top Top-rated. Photos Top cast Edit. Zo In-sung Oh Soo. Song Hye-Kyo Oh Young. Kim Bum Park Jin-sung. Eun-ji Jung Moon Hee-sun. Chong-ok Bae Wang Hye-ji. Kim Tae-woo Jo Moo-chul. Seo Hyo-Rim Jin So-ra. Jae Woo Lee Oh Soo. Yoo Gun Jung-woo. Soo-jin Kyung Moon Hee-jo. More like this. Storyline Edit. Did you know Edit. Why is everything so blurry? He continues on, and Young smiles.
Aka, back off. He has, because he loved a girl who was blind. Can you see nothing at all? Then… the shape of a man starts to form. But through her eyes, the focus is still so-so. According to Secretary Wang, Soo started there six months ago.
A tiny moment passes before he asks if they can see each other again. Young gives a coy smile, causing them both to break out in grins before Soo takes her face in his hands and kisses her.
So for a hot second there, I thought that the ending sequence was a dream, in part because of the blurriness of it all and the inherent implausibility of… well, everything. I was waiting to see if the aftermath changed how I felt about the whole ordeal, since there was a chance for the show to treat the attempt in a thoughtful and meaningful way. I wanted to see if, just maybe, the idea was to have Young hit such a low that she reached a moment of pivotal self-realization in order to decide that she wanted to live after all, in a change we could see and understand.
Really, there are other ways to say you miss someone. No thanks. Who, out of the two of them, showed more human compassion? We have to understand where a character is coming from and why on a basic human level, regardless of circumstance. Really, why? As for the actual epilogue to all this coordinated madness, I found the actual stabbing inconsequential and the final scenes bizarre. We can theorize that he had to heal and hide for a bit from Boss Man, and that he was fine as long as he could keep a distant eye on Young.
Or that he was dead and the ending was a dream. But a girl can dream. Your email address will not be published. You know, I don't know if I can do a good job explaining it. I am confused about a number of things in this episode trust me on that one and I am still writing what looks like it will be my somewhat long response.
So many times I said "but why? Could you please make sense? To be honest, I am glad I read her commentary and her recap, however I still have questions.
Could you tell me exactly what it is about the ending that eluded you? I am just curious Thank you so much Heads for your recaps.
I was anticipating this one especially, because I was curious about what you thought of this episode. To be honest, I was relieved when you wrote that you felt conflicted about the finale and the last few episodes. This final episode left me confused and with a sense of "this was it? I was definitely perplexed, after having watched this episode. Though I was happy to see OS alive, I was not jumping up and down, I was not clapping meaning I was not overly excited , and I couldn't help but wonder if MC dying though maybe we had that coming and the other characters being alive I am assuming was a way of doing fanservice, the main characters got to live and all.
I do agree with you that how we got to that light at the end of the tunnel was more important than the light itself. As you said, this show was well acted, well scored and the editing was well done for the acting and for how the music was placed in the show. The show was very beautiful to look at. I did share and understood your and others' frustrations of the characters. At times, I couldn't understand OY and I found her irritating sometimes. Like you, I didn't understand why she couldn't have that conversation with OS when she was having her tea and he was there right there , and she had already shared her questions with him.
I wished they would have saved time there, and showed us what happened after OS was stabbed, instead of letting us speculate on what happened. It really did feel very Kdrama-like to separate the characters That was what it felt like to me, just so we could have the reunion scene in the very end and tie a neat bow. When you said this, " Seriously though. It made me wonder if because this was a melodrama, the writer had the characters inflict more pain to each other for the sake of the nature of the drama fitting the bill of a melodrama till the end.
I am just speculating of course, however, that was what went through my mind. Also, when OY did that push back when she would ask questions to OS , it reminded me some of Faith, when CY told the doctor that he would ask her later to stay with him and get her answer then.
Well, he already knew he wanted her to stay with him forever , so why not have her answer then and there? Thank you for pointing out the many holes and for doing it with some humor at times. I sometimes miss some of those, and I appreciate when those are pointed out to me. I also had a hard time with Sec. Wang walking back in so easily into OY's life. It was almost as if there were no real repercussions to her actions, except for some of the company's stocks she lost I think and the fact that she was homeless for a few weeks I am assuming Question: I know Heads explained it, however I am still confused, did OS kept folding because if he didn't win he would be dead being killed by Boss Man and Boss Man wouldn't be able to get his money back and OS of course didn't know that Boss Man wanted him dead anyway, regardless of the results?
I was also wondering, why shouldn't have JS hanged up on HS? What else could he have done? I am just curious about that part. I didn't understand the scene where JS knifed OS.
It was so slow and we were made to think that OS died, because JS didn't seem to do anything to help him and yet, he didn't gut him a 2nd time, which seems like he wanted him to live. In that case then, why stab him in the first place? Were Boss Man's minions watching to make sure OS had been killed? And we don't know because we don't see anything alluding to that. That scene left me really perplexed because I would have liked to have known what happened considering how long OS seemed to have been on the ground and he seemed dead.
I guess that is what fake-outs are for. I didn't understand why JS didn't react right away and tried to save him. Some of my questions might seem superficial, however I wish things had been made clear for us Oh well, the drama is over. The ending just seemed so fanservice and I know I have already said that, however, that feeling kept staying with me.
On a shallow note, I loved most of OS's wardrobe, especially the orange coat he wore at the beginning of this episode, it looked good on him. Thank you again Heads for being on this journey with us and for helping us make sense of it.
I sooooooo appreciate that. Ivoire, I am late to this but what is it with will-he-die melos of late and their nonsensical endings? I don't need my heroines to be people I'd like in real life to consider them interesting and watchable, but the second half of this devolved in a very, very similar way to Nice Guy - the nonsensical last-minute stabbing of the hero well, at least Soo, unlike Maru, does not hang out having conversations on a park bench with his girl AFTER being stabbed , the time skip and the reunion of the couple after a long time.
It's by no means the worst thing I've ever seen, but it was a letdown - I can live with Young's suicide attempt, but the sudden Drama Fairy handwaving of it is too much.
I think soo is alive: eith regards to yhe "blurred" background.. The ending was real in my opinion. It was blurry because it was trying to show it in Young's perspective. She was slowly recovering her vision. I thought it was a nice touch. It seemed like the restaurant was Soo's because he told her he actually wanted to cook because Jin Sung and Hee Sun both like his cooking.
Furthermore, they focused on the flowers, which looked like the lamb's ear and freesias they were talking about. I think they were talking about actually bringing flowers for his restaurant. I also think that they wouldn't have shown the "Next Spring" title if it was meant to be a dream or heaven.
The ending was definitely real. It looked blurry because Young's sight wasn't perfect, but just enough for her to make things out. When Hee-Sun and Jin-Sung were talking about visiting Soo and bringing Lamb's ear flowers, they were talking about real brother Soo; visiting the river where his ashes were spread. If the ending wasn't real then that was s a very elaborate dream with the cafe, watress, the fact that Soo had been for 6 months. I don't see how the ending could be just a dream.
Sure the show wasn't perfect but it did give us a happy ending which both characters deserved. I agree with you on the ending.
The blurriness of the scene was to depict Young's perspective. After surgery her vision is most likely not going to be perfect thus there is a blurriness in her vision. They actually knew from the start that it would be happy ending since Writer Noh that it would be one. So hopefully everyone is no longer confused about the ending being sad or an open one. Super evaluation!
Oh you have made it perfect sense I did not feel the flowers were for the grave, as lambs ear was more for OY than OS. U broke it down beautifully!! I thought Soo died.
Otherwise, he would not have let her go through the pain and suffering alone again as she explained that fear to him several times throughout the drama Secondly, the blurriness, the bike, the cafe, and the final cherry blossom scene is played in Young's mind.
Was this technique not used by both Soo and Young more than a few times throughout the drama? This technique was also used in "Secret Garden" What I am saying is Soo lived daily in Young's heart and mind and isolated world. Third, I agree with Ashely above in that Sung's relationship had soured three suiters?
They seemed to have resorted back to their just friends status although Sung was still very much in love with her still. Flowers were for the grave. I can accept this ending though I wished for a happier one.
Finally, as to Wang coming back She needed her since Soo was not in her daily life. Her joy now was in helping others with similar disabilities and experiencing her love for Soo in her mind. This is how she matured and transformed. It looks like the writer got tired after a few episodes and, especially in the end, realized there were things to be told, so they had to be smashed to fit into the general picture.
I am not sure I can bothered to understand anything from the last episode. I just enjoy the cinematography. He acted very well there, too. Just discovered him, and while I do agree he did well in A frozen flower, his movie that I loved him the most is A dirty carnival. He is forever amazing there! How can such a fine man do so many bad boy roles and be believable in them? Thank you for the recommendation - watched it, like it! To me it looks like the last 3 episodes were written by a different person.
Soo chaotic and rushed and nonsensical. I loved the ending, but I don't know what to make of it. Are they still alive? The flowers conversation between JS and HS says no. The blurry images say no. Soo mention od secretary Wang and the scene with the blind folded Wang, M and Jang say yes.
I think that is what the writer ment. Make it confuse and let us choose the ending we want. I made the mistake to watch Frozen flower since everybody was talking about it. Too many very explicit sex scenes without enough justification. They could have done the movie with only half of them. The art part is just an excuse for porn. Sex is a natural part of our life and that is artistically shot and they are just depicting a natural human behavior to get aroused and be lustful, because if you don't then you are not normal.
I applaud his professionalism, knowing that this is his first time to have sex scenes. His being a gentleman is one thing I admire too as seen in the bts. Completely agree, Kaye. I always see this movie labeled as "porn", but this is the perfect example of explaining that it isn't.
Sex isn't a shameful thing. It's alright if you're uncomfortable watching others be intimate at the moment, buuut "porn" is not the correct label for such a film. If it was a "porn" movie it wouldn't get nearly as much critical acclaim as it did. I don't think it was an excuse to put in alot of sex scenes. There was realism to that. And yes, like mentioned above, to show lust and passion.
If the fact that AFF is a story about a sexual relationship between two people growing into something else isn't enough justification for it having sex scenes, I don't know what is. Anyway, I thought it was clear enough that the ending was real, the blurry perspective was Young's post-surgery sight as Kaye says.
I think they are dead. And Jinsung and Hee Sung were talking about the memorial for Soo. Or they could be alive and the memorial was for brother Soo. The ending was open ended. But it doesn't make sense. How will Gangster Kim overlook a non dead Soo.
Or maybe Soo went into hiding until gangster Kim was arrested? These last few episodes were off and did not match up to the earlier episodes. Frankly, I am glad it ended at 16, unlike most dramas these days that stretch the episodes to 20, 24, and even 50, when there is hardly enough plot for They are most probably dead and in heaven somewhere. This ambiguous ending reminds me of "Ironweed" by William Kennedy.
Well done. Several hints: the sad look on Jingsung's face even though he was with his family safe and sound; Young's long hair-there is no way a woman who just finished chemo could still have such long hair just six months out; there was this sadness through out the last few scenes-the falling flowers from the trees, the blurry and white-out treatment of the shots-some contributed to the theory she must have regained partial eyesight and that is why you see the blurry shots.
I beg to differ. I see that as a sign that they are now in heaven-finally away from all the pain and suffering that tormented both while they were alive. Had Soo survived, there was no way, the gangster boss, Kim, would have let Jingsung lived happily. Had he survived, there would be no talk of bringing flowers to see Soo.
One can argue it was a reference of Young's brother but I feel it was a reference they are bringing lamb's ears for both Soo and Young as she most likely died the same day as Soo in surgery and the flowers would be a way to remember them both I dunno! Wah anywhy was a great drama plus the acting was awesome X3. Beside all the beautiful faces and cinematography, noise marketing, media play, exaggerated praise help the popularity of this drama also. The vaunted cinematography of this drama may appear genuinely impressive at first, but it dawns upon you sooner or later that, however it wants to emulate it, this is not a Merchant-Ivory film.
No, I actually think it is genuinely impressive. It's lovely and I don't think you can blow it off as just pretension. Someone put a lot of hard thought into that and it showed and was amazing.
The drama in it's entirety may not have been as solid as it's looks, but I for sure will not deny them. Beautiful settings and looks, characters with deep scars and flaws. It's a really nice juxtaposition, imo. It never felt like the characters were tying to be perfect or anything. I was also impressed by the consistent beauty of the cinematography; perfect contrasts, appropriately warm tone, gorgeous scenery, etc.
It may have lost itself in its own mesmerizing cinematography at times, but I thoroughly enjoyed the visual experience. Acting was stellar too. I enjoyed this drama and was mesmerized by it, but at the end of the day, it won't go on my masterpiece or rewatch list. There really wasn't that much plot, when you come to think of it and it makes sense, why it was a 2 hour movie versus a 16 hour drama. That is permanent and altered the scope of her life, but yet even at the end they are asking her to come back into Young's life.
The bad friends, the conniving fiancee all forgiven and even rewarded, what a message to send to the public. I agree with you all the way! I am not wedded to reality, because, hey, it's TV. But the entire last episode did not flow at all from the previous ones. It was like a bad fairy tale that had a happy ending tacked on to please the audience. I watched the last episode of Queen of Ambition yesterday. Now that was a great ending. I cried like a baby. I did feel one thing at the end of the final episode: Thank God it is finally over!
And not a moment too soon! I totally agree with all your comments, except, I rather liked how they twisted the Jin Sung - Oh Soo loyalty in the end. I was surprised. I think if they showed the process of Jin Sung contemplating whether to stab Oh Soo or not, then we wouldn't get that element of surprise. You're right, everyone in this show seems to heal rather quick.
I normally question these things in my head, but this time, I prefer that everyone heals for no apparent reason to get my happy ending.
I too felt a bit confused about these show towards the last few episodes, but I'm pretty happy with my ending. I think it was the best one we could get. This was my reaction seven minutes before the ending: WHAT!? Show you have less than 10 minutes to make him reincarnate. Oh and Kim Bum, I don't think I can forgive you.
Five minutes before the ending: WHAT!? Is she dreaming? Is he alive or just a figment of her memories? Stop playing with my emotions! Except then So the truck didn't run over everyone? Why did he have to go stab Soo? Am I suppose to just forget all that? Oh well. I really liked the beginning episode 8 was definitely the climax of happiness for me but then we dove into melo land which culminated in a LOT of crying in the last episode.
I so needed this recap to make sense of the ending Are they both dead and finally meeting in the afterlife? After the book reading at the cafe, was it only Young's wishful thinking and imagination while she was walking and reminiscing about a dead Soo? Perhaps like the movie, viewers are left to decide for themselves how to interpret the ending. But I'm leaning toward a happy-ever-after both are alive and living and loving ending, because hey, this is K-drama land, and if Young can survive a wrist-slitting, then Soo can survive a fatal knife wound Overall a beautiful drama with beautiful people.
Bravo to the whole cast, and especially to the dreamy Zo in Sung. JIS, who I will forgive for just about anything! Even for wearing that maroon suit and pants at ep16! This is my first melo and I endured it all for JIS, hahaha! Seriously, I can't wait for his next drama! A romcom, please!!! If there's one thing that i loved coming out of this show, it's my new love for jo in sung.
I guess its up to intrepretation but it may be that those two are actually alive and everything went well OR they both died Soo died first bc he got stabbed which is why he is at the restaurant "6 months before" waiting for her. Either way I guess its a happy ending that they are together! Personally, I feel that they died and met in the afterlife Also when heesun and jinsung said they would bring flowers to soo I think the whole flower thing is to amend for stabbing Oh Soo.
The scenes are blurry because that's how Young sees the world now. At first I thought it was some kind of alternate reality where they both died and created it so they and us viewers can come into terms with moving on. Like Lost! Like what were they trying to achieve with that effect? And then i realized, she was only recuperating possibly and thus through her eyes, things are still blurry.
I didn't think about it that way when watching the final scene so i believed they both died. Well, Young must be alive. Otherwise she's hanging out in the afterlife with her ex-fiance.
And there's no way the afterlife's that cruel. Which means Soo must be alive, too. Because she chatted and interacted with him. I could buy him being dead if they'd left it at the bicycle scene -- but the restaurant was too real. I agree with Hannah -- the flowers were a continual peace offering and the weirdly beautiful blurriness was Young's pov. HeadsNo2, I wish I could meet you in person during the Dramabeans Meetup and personally say how you're one heck of a great writer and thinker but I'll have to be content with this.
I absolutely love your comments and totally agree word for word with your analysis. This show started out great but slowly became distant with the sudden implausibilities and uncertainty of what Young was thinking as well as glossing over Sec. Wang's crimes. I was also unhappy that Soo didn't take the money, making his con a moot point but whatever. As for the ending, I still kinda feel in some way that Soo is actually dead and whatever was happening was happening in some parallel universe, lol.
But I can still accept your interpretation of the ending as it makes way more sense than mine. Anyways, thanks for such wonderful recaps. It was a pleasure reading them. I crack up at times while reading her recaps 'cause she's writing about serious moments in such a dry, humorous way. I love it. I'm in agreement. Heads you are one hell of a writer. I love reading your insightful, witty and humorous recaps. I didn't watch this show but I read every recaps on it.
I will join you guys in saying that I am also quite impressed with Heads' writing and her sense of humor. I do find myself chuckling at times when reading her recaps. I also like how she explains things, we get to see her thought process and I am grateful for that.
Thank you, Heads, for pointing out all the illogical additions and omissions that left me feeling confused and nonplussed during the last three or more episodes. I'm with you-- this would have been a wonderful drama if the writers hadn't given up on the characters towards the end: I felt that we were just coasting, or worse, slipping and sliding, as the show labored its way into the finale, and there wasn't even a good "save" in the closing moments.
Still, I'm glad that none of the main characters died. Thank you so much, Heads, for verbalizing all of my frustration and crankiness over the ending of this show, especially the illogical, disjointed mess of the final episode. When I watched the ending, I was really angry at first, because I felt that I had been totally manipulated to create some sort of artsy-fartsy ambiguous ending, logic, story flow, and characterization be damned.
Then I realized that this drama is just like the character Young: beautiful to look at, given to half-disclosures or sideways feints that make you go into hours of analysis to try and figure it all out. Just like Young, this show grew and developed until about halfway, when it started losing its momentum, getting more secretive, and reverting to bad old habits.
I really wanted to like this show, just like I wanted to like Young, and I find them both frustrating and prickly and immensely illogical. The plot holes - oy! You could drive a truck through them. I tried to write down all of the questions I still had at the end, but my fingers got tired. This is the perfect way to describe how I was feeling about the show in its final eps. It was so much surer earlier on. As soon as the suicide twist happened, I think I started to check out, and fast.
I mean, if you want to commit suicide, don't you really slit your wrists BOTH of them and get in the water for maximum bleeding? I'll bet Young cut the short way across her arm too, rather than the long way, which would again be what you would do if you actually wanted to die. When I heard her speech in this ep about how she wanted Soo to come and save her I was really disgusted. Like Heads said, there are other ways to say you miss someone. More importantly, Young, you are being kissed by Soo!
The love of your life, the one you defied death for whether you died and are meeting in the afterlife or here on earth! Open your mouth when you kiss such a hot man who obviously loves you so much! She did do the across-wrist cut. Which is why I thought her admission that she wasn't really looking to die made sense and was happy she realized and admitted that. For the other reasons you said as well.
It didn't disgust me though. It's not like she's an emotionally stable person thinking through exactly how this will effect the people around her. But I thought her extreme trust issues were well shown so I bought her character as a whole. And with just an "I'm sorry". Which is crappy and yes, obsessive and crazy! I was hoping for a more straight-forward ending, but I'll take this too. I don't buy that Young is done with her suicidal tendencies, but she seems a lot happier probably because before she was so untrustworthy and felt like everyone was out to kill her anyway, but now she's starting to trust people and she's more at ease.
Who knows. Young is not a character I will pretend to understand through and through, lol. Which might be realistic. Over all, I do think rather than a "happy ending" it was more like a "believe what you want" ending. Then, again I don't believe Young would make up such an elaborate story for herself even in a dream to "blind" herself from his death.
Maybe because I felt like whether or not he gave it in, Kim still was going to find some excuse to kill him. Either way, I did really love this drama.
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